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Look. We are devoted to Legion Baseball in Minnesota. We have the years in service and enough experiences to prove it. We are thankful for what we have. And we are mindful that Legion Baseball can be even more than it is today. We are also keenly aware of challenges faced by families and programs posed by competing programs and a vastly changed baseball landscape. We are also keenly aware that Legion Baseball in Minnesota has been unwilling to even engage in lopen discussion let alone programs to diversify its "one size fits all" approach that simply repeats the past with na sprinkling of incremental adjustment.
We do not have all the solutions or ideas. Maybe discussion gets triggered by thoughts we share. Maybe not.
Doing things well and continuing a strong tradition of community based baseball is what Legion baseball is all about. Doing things better should also be our purpose. Legion baseball has 5,500 players and over 1,200 coaches. Add in 11,000 parents plus other supports and that number gets pretty big.
Since 1926, Legion ball has meant one a one community (high school) team competing against another in league play with playoffs and a state tournament to follow. Playoffs are of course about eliminating teams and ending player's baseball season. Everyone used to play Legion and even more aspired a Legion uniform. No innovation was required. No one had to compete for players. Legion baseball was the 'summer varsity". And the quality of play at times was amazing.
A Legion program could simply "hit rinse and repeat" the same format year after year after year. So when some influential baseball people wanted control and power, well why not? There wasn't much to decide and no one sought changed. What was there to adapt to?
Time and baseball and available options have indeed changed. They have been changing for over 20 years. Competition for players has stiffened in the metro and in outstate regions. Where have the elite baseball players gone? They used to play Legion. Where did the better and best players go? How many better and best players have elected to find other competitive options to supplement or to replace Legion baseball?
Most of us only know what is within our local borders and few know what is in our state borders. It is when you look at other states you really learn and expand your horizons. You see the good and you see the bad. We hate to pick on Wisconsin (right?). But here is a state of similar size to Minnesota that offers some good and some bad to learn from.
1) Good. This state is open and very democratic. Coaches are the voting constituents (as with most every other Legion program). Meetings are open. Issues are aired. Policies adopted or changed with agreement of the voters. The State Legion houses the program and the program enlists a variety of volunteer area directors and divisional commissioners. Wisconsin runs baseball like it runs the Wisconsin American Legion. An open democracy that invites people in.
2) The Bad. Wisconsin Legion Baseball has just never adapted to the competition and to its changing market. While over 100 private baseball clubs were getting established, the Legion Mantra remained - play for your single community/high school and Legion is cheaper than club.
That mantra has not been enough. Senior division baseball in Wisconsin has barely 100 teams. Metro areas and mid sized cities have been over run by clubs as better players sought better competition then drawing even average players away.
When they say if its not broke then why fix it, reality is that when it is broke you have nothing that you can fix. But maybe Minnesota is different? We hope so.
It is easy and sometimes fun to point the finger at individuals. We think the major issue is systemic - the system. Sorry Board members, but you really have a closed loop group. The 5,500 players, 1,200 coaches, and 11,000 parents only have your, your vision, and your energy to rely on. They do not know you and they have no access to you. That is not your fault. The Constitution was designed to concentrate sole authority in a handful of insiders that have no accountability to anyone outside your Board. Any and all power is vested in The Handful. It is best called an Autocracy not Democracy. It is in all practical senses a form of dictatorship. The power grab by some influential baseball people was some 35 years ago. Times are different. The State Legion lacked todays strength on numbers in financially.
You American Legionnaires. We do not preach autocratic rule in our Americanism pillar. We would never take voting away from members. We are to instill American values and demonstrate American principles and institutions as part of our mission and commitment to youth. It is the baseball structure that violates our American Legion promise and values. People in charge just fall in with the systemic trap.
Legion Baseball touches over 15,000 people every year. The American Legion needs to accept responsibility. The baseball program is bigger than a handful of part-time volunteers no matter how fine and well intentioned they may be.
The reality is that the glass is half full. And half empty.
Change is needed. It is not hard. If it could have happened with the current structure and people you would have seen it already. The experience we have had with Legion All Stars simply reinforced the most negative of views. Legion Baseball is, by its own constitutional design, a non-democratic closed system that is owned by a handful of people that have zero accountability beyond their conference room. Its not their fault. It is by Constitutional design.
The Minnesota American Legion should not be supporting and authorizing an antiquated, authoritarian baseball structure. The principles of Americanism are right. They are American Legion. Put those principles to work in Legion Baseball. Every neighboring state has democratic rule. Minnesota is out of step.
Do you believe that choices have intended consequences and maybe some unintended choices as well? Like what? Did you know D1 is on its third format in five years? Were you consulted? Did you vote on it? Were you in on the discussion? Of course not. In any satte around us, coaches would have been involved and would be voting. State tournaments are big things to kids. Most want to think they have a chance. Tournament structunres can favor certain teams and programs. Who benefits?
Let's look at the D1 state tournament over the last 25 years. Two teams, the state champ and runner up, advance from Minnesota to a national regional tournament. How have we done? How important is that regional nod? Is it to give kids experiences? Or is it to pursue the next Minnesota National Champion?
In Pursuit of Regional Wins - The Past 20 Years and Past 10 Years
Has anyone noticed? When Minnesota adopted large scale D1 state tournaments, metro teams consistently won the top two spots while outstate was headed home in the car.
Big tournaments are clearly skewed to big program teams and that has overwhelming meant Metro teams while outstate has gotten shut out. But that has certainly not meant great success at Regionals in the last ten years as no Minnesota team has advanced to Nationals. Most teams play two or three games and occasionally more. The closest Minnesota team of the past ten years was Excelsior who dropped a pair of games on the final day. Most Minnesota teams play 2 to 4 games at regionals. You don't have to have big program depth to compete.
We ask the question - why can't Minnesota send a metro and an outstate team every year? You know, spread the opportunity. Yes chasing the next national title remains a valid dream. Is that nostalgia or today's reality?
Nebraska faced such an issue and addressed it creatively. The east side of the state was almost always getting both regional nods. Of course. Those Omaha teams are always tough. Nebraska created an East State Tournament and a West State Tournament with each winner advancing to the regional. The two champions play off for the overall title with the winner getting the higher seed at regions. This approach has had great success and will be introduced this year in Division 2 (Nebraska has 4 divisions). The East West system gives opportunity to the entire state. It has had the side effect of causing several small lower division teams in the west to form a Division 1 regional team that won its state and performed well at the regional (ask the Minnesotans that saw it).
The New Minnesota D1 State Tournament format and brackets may very well offer the opportunity to get creative and generate new interest in the tourney and in Greater Minnesota. The brackets as we saw them basically run side by side 8 team tournaments a part of one overall tourney. On the last day, two finalists from each side play each other which creates a bracket champion. That bracket champion gets a regional slot. The two bracket champions then play a final game for what is essentially bragging rights to crown a the overall state champion. Now that's a whole lot of describing when you dont see the bracket.
Bottom line - name one Bracket the American Division and the other the National Division (or something else that creates identity). Outstate teams go in one bracket with metro teams in the other. A Metro state champ and an Outstate state champ are crowned who play for the overall state championship.
Why not spread the wealth and recognize Greater Minnesota and its teams? What are you giving up? They appear almost shut out by tournaments skewed to fewer and fewer big teams. You may discover some rivalry and enthusiasm not seen before. Give it a couple of years. If it doesn't work then change back to reward the likely two big metro team.
Virtually every sports program divides its teams into divisions. Almost every program seeks to afford maximum access to competitive balance. These are programs after all that are geared to the players whom the administrators seek to serve.
Not Minnesota Legion baseball. Until 2024, Minnesota boasted two huge divisions called D1 and D2.
Mismatched playoffs have long been a feature in Minnesota Legin baseball. No one has had a real say in that beyond the Baseball Board. It hasn;t mattered what the high school did with its divisions. It hasn;t mattered what all other states are doing. Populating all those D1 substates with small teams is the design of someone or someones. Who benefits? Who loses out?
In 2022, two Baseball Board members did a painstaking survey of every coach of a team with a school enrollment below 1,100, a mark that seemed to divide the huge Division 1 into two equivalent divisions. You need a state tournament host and 56 teams to populate 7 substate playoff tourneys. Each cpach was asked, if given the choice, where would that team like to play? Would you like to play up to the Big Team Level or play in a new division that would offer more balanced competition.
A proposal was made to the Board, presented by a District Director at the fall meeting. With a split vote, the proposal failed. Two ballots against were cast by absentee directors. The question of whether the bylaws of the Baseball Board authorize absentee voting went unanswered. Who knows. With the failure of the initiative, the Board decided that they would develop their own survey to go out to all Division 1 coaches including teams of every size. A committee was formed to develop the survey questions. Interestingly, the survey committee was populated with three who voted against and one who voted for the divisional proposal. No survey questions were ever developed and the new board survey never materialized.
However, all was not lost as the State Director purportedly went to work on a compromise. Tier 1 A already existed. One could simply move some '2' teams over and a limited number of small metro teams to create half a division. The compromise passed at the spring board meeting. Unfortunately, no state tournament site had weekend availability. No matter, a midweek format was located. The project proved sucessful as did the first Tier 1A state tournament.
The cup is indeed half full. Its a triubute to leadership to be sure. What's the future hold? Tier 1A was renewed for 2025. Outstate teams were again excluded.
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