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Purpose

 We are devoted to Legion Baseball in Minnesota. We have the years in service and enough experiences to prove it. We are thankful for what we have. And we are mindful that Legion Baseball can be even more than it is today.  We are keenly aware of challenges faced by families and programs posed by competing programs in a vastly changed baseball landscape. We are also keenly aware that Legion Baseball in Minnesota has seemed unwilling to engage in open discussion let alone develop programs to diversify its "one size fits all" approach that appears to repeat the past with maybe a sprinkling of incremental adjustment. Maybe that is good enough. Maybe not.


We do not have all the solutions or ideas. Most of what we share comes from what we have heard from coaches and players and parents and college coaches. Maybe some discussion gets triggered by thoughts we share. Maybe not. 


Doing things well and continuing a strong tradition of community based baseball is what Legion baseball is all about. Doing things better should also be our purpose. Legion baseball has 5,500 players and over 1,200 coaches. Add in 11,000 parents plus other supports and that number gets pretty big. The Minnesota American Legion transferred virtual ownership of the baseball program to a quasi-independent Board of just 13 people. The members are appointed and may stay in positions for life. The options available to Legion players and coaches are restricted to the personal vision, personal views, personal agendas, and energy of this group of 14. Unlike neighboring states that favor open, democratic structures, Minnesota Legion Baseball  is, for all intents and puposes, a very closed system.

Back in the day, everyone used to play Legion and even more aspired to wear a Legion uniform. For most communities, the Legion team was the summer varsity often mirroring the school team. Minnesota restricted team formation to one team per base school. Until twenty years ago, there was no competition for kids from other bprograms. Club baseball was an in its infancy. No Legion innovation was required. No one had to compete for players. Legion baseball was the 'it" place to be. And the quality of play was often amazing.


Most Legion programs simply "hit rinse and repeat" using the same format year after year after year. A few decades ago, there was unhappiness in Minnesota. Some influential baseball people wanted to split from the state Legion organization and run their own Legion baseball show. The guys wanted to run things their way without interference (as we are told) from the outside (the State Legion) and without interference from within the baseball program (other Legion coaches). A new control system was imposed with a charter or constitution from the Minnesota Legion. It has been in place ever since, even though most of the originators have moved on.


Times have changed. Available program and playing options have greatly changed. They have been changing for over 20 years. Competition for players has stiffened in the metro and increasingly in outstate regions. Where have the elite baseball players gone? They used to play Legion. Where did many the next tiers - the better and best players go? How many better and best players have elected to find other competitive options to supplement or to replace Legion baseball? How many programs and coaches struggle to compete for players? And why has this subject been avoided by the Legion baseball mangers/owners? There should be plenty of interest in development of more playing choices and opportunities. All Stars proved that. The interest in a beta test of a mid-season weekend porogram proved that interest. Yet all the Baseball Board has been able to do is create several anti-club or anti-club player rules that are randomly enforced and compleytely ignored in some instances. 


Most of us only know what is within our local borders. Fewer know what is going on with our neighboring programs and within in our state borders. It is when you look at other states you really learn and expand your horizons. You see the good and you see the bad. 


All surrounding states use an open, democratic structure for baseball. Every American Legion post and state organization follows a democratic approach as Legion baseball is supposed to teach our players and tomorrow's lewaders about American institutions and American values. But that is not Minnesota American Lewgion - Baseball.


Some states face little pressure from competing baseball program models. Yet those states work hard to deliver programs that continues to be tailored to players and communities. They continue to involve coaches as voters in elections and policies. They are open to conversations of new ideas.


Other states face intense pressure. In Wisconsin, there are more senior club baseball teams than there are senior division Legion teams. Their player program menu never varied or diversified. Players left. Coaches left. And teams dropped away. As a Wisconsin coach told us - "It's broke now. We can't fix it".


But maybe Minnesota is different? We hope so. We hipe someone is listening. We hope someone will join a conversation.

A New Constitution is Just Overdue

It is easy and sometimes fun to point the finger at individuals. We think the real issue is systemic - the system.  

  • The consitutional structure is frankly anti-democratic by design. 
  • The volunteer group has been unable to manage the program beyond the boundaries set decades ago that is clearly out of step with baseball programs throughout the country as well as within our state. 
  • A handful of people control the agenda, the program, and the policies that are literally imposed on the Minnesota Legion program's 5,500 players, 1,200 coaches, and 11,000 parents. 
  •  Despite claims to the contrary, Minnesota Legion Baseball is run as a closed loop. It operates as a private group. That is not your fault. The Constitution was designed to concentrate sole authority in a handful of insiders that have no accountability to anyone outside your Board. Hence, any and all power is vested in The Handful. 
  • There are no open elections, meetings, or communications. Critics say outsiders are not welcome nor are differences of opinion welcome. The system is best called an Autocracy not Democracy. It is in all practical senses a form of dictatorship. 
  • The baseball system is most certainly nothing close to American democratic principles or ideals or mechanisms. No  American Legion state organization is run in this manner. And we cannot find any other state American Legion Baseball structure that is similar.
  • The Minnesota baseball constitutional design looks like a system of colonial rule with appointed governors versus an American sytem of freely elected representatives.


We might just need a fresh look. 

  • Is there any board member that would fear an elective structure? 
  • Is there anyone that would fear an elective term of three or four years versus life? If one wants to serve for life, then win re-election.
  • Is there anyone that fears open voting by those that pay the fees, i.e. the coaches and program managers"? No taxation without representation is an appropriate slogan and its very American. 
  • Isn't it fair and American to openly elect representatives?
  • Should Minnesota Legion baseball fear meetings that are open and discussions that take place in the open versus behind closed doors?
  • Where committees are formed that can invite more people aboard to work on exisiting as well as new projects?
  • Where personal agendas that plague and gridlock the existing structure give way to collaborative efforts and an open exchange of ideas and views? It is no secret. current and past State Directors have admonished the directors to focus on ideas versus their personal agendas.  
  • Does that frighten anyone? It shouldn't.
  • We don't think we have bad people. But it is a bad Constitution. 


Many of Us Are American Legionnaires

We do not preach autocratic rule in our American Legion "Americanism" pillar. We would never take voting away from members. We are to instill American values and demonstrate American principles and institutions as part of our mission and commitment to youth. Our Minnesota Legion Baseball structure violates our American Legion promise, values, and violates our Legion structures. 


Any realistic review of the baseball system and its constitution will conclude that the system  is anti-American Legion practices in structure. Baseball operates anti- the American Legion core Americanmism values. Colonialist structures and authoritrarian rule by a tiny minority of unelected persons that can sit in control for a lifetime are hardly the values or institutions that the American Legion should be teaching our youth.


Representative Democracy is American

Legion Baseball touches over 15,000 people every year. The Minnesota American Legion needs to  step up and accept responsibility for this baseball program and for the constitutional structure that concentrated all power anmd authority in the hands of an unelected few. The baseball program is bigger than a handful of part-time volunteers no matter how fine and well intentioned they may be. Open discussions and meetings are better than closed doors and back rooms.


  • All Baseball Directors should be elected by coaches. You will have to communicate with your constituents and earn their trust and votes. You will learn to represent your constituents as well as advance your personal agenda.  There is no reason to doubt that many current board members and officers would get elected and or re-elected. But Accountability would shift from a group of insiders to elected representatives responsive to their voting constituents.
  • Elections should be periodic - every three or four years. That is plenty of time for the sake of continuity. No doubt there are directors who work their tails off that will get re-elected many times over. Personal agendas and outsized influence will be minimized as representative governance will not likely reward selfish interest.
  • Elections with today's technology can be cheap and efficient.
  • Every coach or program director that pays a team registration fee must be given a vote and a voice. Americanism at work: No taxation without representation. No vote = no voice.
  • Minnesota Legion baseball must come out of the closed room and do its work in the open. That means open meetings with published notices and agendas. In today's world, anyone can attend virtually. Legion Baseball should never be criticized as the personal property of a few. An open  door policy will dispell shut negative views.  Legion Baseball should never be criticized as can be heard today as a 'secret society' (minus the handshake) or a closed 'fraternity" or a "few guiys in an echo chamber".
  • The State Legion should well consider the Nebraska model with a professional activities director placed at the helm of all Legion activities including baseball. Central dependable administrative help is required. In 2025,  the Minnesota Baseball Board has hired a part time admin person.  Roadblocks and board impasses on Divisions, on development, or on almost any topic show you a board structure that past and current leaders refer to as "dysfunctional".  Part time volunteers have limited time and energy. The Minnesota program is the largest in the country and yet the Minnesota State Legion takes no responsibility and plays virtually no part in its administration or  development. Legion Baseball is a Minnesota American Legion responsibility. You gave it away. We can't find any other state that did so.
  • Establish a Development Committee and a Coaches Advisory Committee. Maybe an Events committee whereby volunteers would help create more exciting features or sponsors for Legion events. Bring people in for a change. Maybe its easier right now to tell hosts what to do or a tournament. But even the creation of state tournament websites would help hosts as well as elevate the experience beyond going to the current website and looking at a spreadsheet. Bring talent and energy IN. The system and the people today keep people OUT. 
  • No substantive progress can be made under a private system that is mired in its own log jam. 


Things are not perfect and likely not where they should be. But we hear the claims loud and clear:

  • We lead the nation with 360 teanms. We must be doing it right.
  • If it aint broke, don't fix it.


Minnesota kids and coaches love baseball. Most love Legion baseball. Many remember the Legion brand for what it was - the best baseball around.  But do not confuse love of baseball for the belief that a program modeled on 1995 cannot or should not improve and strive to be the best baseball program it can be. The Legion baseball centennial might be this year. But baseball market realities are far different now. And Minnesota Legion Baseball, in our view, can meet those challenges. It just has not tried, yet.

  • Yes. We have 360 teams.  Great. But don't pat yourselves on the back quite yet. Look further. Twenty five years ago we had 330 teams. Over 130 new teams have been added. Where did the other 100 plus teams disappear to? What happened? Who is monitoring or analyzing for the Legion program?
  • Legion structures need reform. Operating 2 1/2 senior divisions produces competitive disparities that need correction. 
  • For instance - Why should a few smaller Metro programs get to compete against similar sized programs in Tier 1A while smaller Outstate teams are exl;uded from T1A and have little chance to ever see a state tournament. They are literally "canon fodder" for big programs in sustate playoffs. 
  • For instance - Why don;t Sednior D2 teams have the same equal access to substate playoffs enjoyed by every other level and program in Minnesota - Junior and Senior?  Why should every level get automatic seeding in a substate playoff tournament while 57% of the Senior D2 teams will never even get a playoff spot? No  neighboring state and no other baseball program discriminates against its own in this fashion.
  • For instance - Competition for players by other programs has been draining Legion player talent and undermining the competitive level of play for years. And evidence from 2024 says that erosion has accelerated. Some measured metrics show that Legion baseball has lost significant market share of the better to best players in communites. The Legion Board will not openly engage this topic. Why can't honest and open discussions take place? Maybe the current outstate directors do not care. Maybe the metro directors are unwilling to engage the topic. The woprld will not be less competitive nor will challenges shrink. A constitutionally mandated closed system prevents conversation let alone possible solutions.
  • For instance - Minnesota Legion players, families, and coaches have rallied when given opportunities to play in Legion events and programs that extend beyond the boundaries of their base school. Why does this board structure undermine and then eliminate the development of programs that diversify the Legion baseball program lineup while expanding playing opportunities? Disliking a couple of innovators is pretty lousy justification for crushing innovations. Closing the door to baseball on development is not the sign of vision.


Change is needed. It is not hard. If it change could have happened within the current structure and with the current people, you would have seen it already.  No meaningful development or change has occurred or will occur under the status quo. The experience we have had with Legion All Stars simply reinforced the most negative of views. Legion Baseball is, by its own constitutional design, a non-democratic closed system that is owned by a handful of people that have zero accountability beyond their conference room. Its not their fault. It is by Constitutional design. 


The Minnesota American Legion should not be supporting and authorizing an antiquated, authoritarian baseball structure. The principles of Americanism are right. They are American Legion. Put those principles to work in Legion Baseball. Every neighboring state has democratic rule. Minnesota is out of step.

Give Outstate Minnesota a Break at the New D1 State Tourney

 Do you believe that choices have intended consequences and maybe some unintended consequences as well? Did you know D1 is on its third format in five years? Were you consulted? Did you vote on it? Were you in on the discussion?  Have you even heard of the New D1 Tournament structure? Of course not. In any state around us, coaches would have been involved and would have had open discussions and likely voted on the new structure. Apparently the Board got it wrong a few years ago when it made a change. We hope it got lucky and has it right this time. Is the new format a 16 team clone of a high school wrestling bracket? If so, its fortunmate to have a wrestling coach onthe board.


State tournaments are big things to players, coaches and families. Most want to think they have a chance.  Playoffs and state tournaments currently take up the vast majority of Board members time and energy. It may come as a surprise, but different tournament structures can favor certain teams and programs over others. Who benefits? Who does not benefit? To many observers, the eveolution of Senior D1 state yournaments have favored large metro programs while outstate programs lost out. It used to be that 42% of the state champs or state runners up came from Outstate. In the last twenty years, only 7.5% of Outstate teams have placed in the top two spots. Was this intended or not intended? That meant 92% of the regional playoff spots went to metro teams. Was that really fair? Did the metro teams win any more games at regionals than an outstate team might have won?


Let's look at the D1 state tournament over the last 25 years. Two teams, the state champ and runner up, advance from Minnesota to a national regional tournament. How have we done? How important is that regional nod? Is it to give kids experiences? Or is it to pursue the next Minnesota National Champion? Could and Outstate team win a game or two in a regional?


In Pursuit of Regional Wins - The Past 20 Years and Past 10 Years

  • Our state champ went to the World Series 4 times, all Eden Prairie. None in the past 10 years.
  • Our state runner up won the regional 2 times (2005 and 2013).  None in the last 10 years.
  • In the past 20 years, only the outstate Rochester Patriots won a state title back in 2009 - 5% of the total.
  • In the past 20 years, outstate teams made runner up just 2 times - 10% of the total.
  • Outstate teams have garnered just 7.5% of the regional spots in 20 years.
  • Outstate teams placed 17 times in the previous 20 year period - 42% of the placements.
  • Minnesota teams have won a regional at a 15% rate but 0% in the last 10 years.


When Minnesota adopted large scale D1 state tournaments, Metro teams have consistently won the top two spots while the Outstate kids were headed home in the car.

  • 16 Team Double Elimination format required a winners bracket team to play 5 games and a loser bracket team had to play 6.  These were 9 inning games.
  • In 2021, the pool play format required 6 games although you could lose one or two in the pool and still become a champion.
  • These large scale formats appear to have advantaged big program teams while outstate teams probably lacked the roster and pitching depth to survive.
  • Minnesota teams at the regional have played two to four games except on rare occasion. Why couldn't an Outstate team handle two to four regional games?
  • Has the dominance of Metro at the D1 state tournament affected outstate programs in any way?


It appears that Division 1 Senior tournaments are skewed to big program Metro teams. Outstate teams seem to have been shut out. The D1 state tournament went to 16 teams. That change added more games to play to get to the finals. More games require more pitching depth. An Outstate team might have a strong 1,2,3 and maybe even a 4th pitcher.  But going 6 or 7 or 8 deep would seem to favor big programs, i.e. big Metro programs. The record shows that, in fact, Metro teams gained a very big edge. 


Did Metro teams win any more regional games than an Outstate team might have? Being a large school metro team has not meant great success at Regionals. In the last ten years, no Minnesota team has advanced to Nationals. Most teams play two or three games and occasionally more. Maybe you don't always have to have big program depth to compete for two or three or four games?


We ask the question - Why can't Minnesota send a metro and an outstate team every year? You know, spread the opportunity. Yes chasing the next national title remains a valid dream. It may be more nostalgia than today's reality.


Nebraska faced such an imbalance issue and addressed it creatively. The east side of the state was almost always getting both regional nods. Of course. Those Omaha teams are tough. Nebraska created an East State Tournament and a West State Tournament with each winner advancing to the regional. The two champions play off for the overall title with the winner getting the higher seed at regions. This approach has had great success and will be introduced this year in Division 2 (Nebraska has 4 divisions). The East West system gives opportunity to the entire state.  It has had the side effect of allowing several smaller lower division teams to join together to form a Division 1 team. A couple of the combination or zone teams won its state and performed well at the regional.


The Board is believed to have changed the D1 State Tournament format once again. If it is the brackets that we saw, this new Minnesota D1 State Tournament formatmay offer an opportunity to get creative. Some new interest and renewed excitement could result. A format similar to Nebraska could easily be adapted with a metro-versus - outstate competitive lineup.The brackets as we saw them basically run side by side 8-team tournaments a part of one overall tourney. On the last day, two finalists from each side play each other which creates a bracket State champion. Each bracket champion gets a regional slot. The two bracket champions then play a final game for what is essentially bragging rights to crown a the overall state champion. Now that's a whole lot of describing when you dont see the bracket. Ask your State Director for a bracket copy.


So how about naming one bracket the American Division and the other the National Division (or something else that creates identity). Outstate teams go in one bracket with metro teams in the other. A Metro state champ and an Outstate state champ  are crowned who play for the overall state championship. Both go to the rehgionals.


Why not spread the wealth and recognize Greater Minnesota programs and teams? What are you giving up? Outstate appears almost shut out by tournaments  that seem  skewed to fewer and fewer big teams. You may discover some fun rivalry and generate enthusiasm not seen before. Give it a couple of years. If it doesn't work then change back to reward the big metro teams again.

D1 Playoffs - Right Sizing the Metro, But Only the Metro?

Every major sports program divides its teams into divisions. Almost every program seeks to afford maximum access to competitive balance. These are programs after all that are geared to the players whom the administrators supposedly serve.

  • High school baseball has four divisions AAAA, AAA. AA, A. Small schools are not matched against big schools. How many A's are in high school football? Are there 6 divisions? How could a small town compete with the big schools? They can't of course.
  • Every baseball program around us has multiple divisions. Competitve fairness is baked into their systems. Wisconsin only has 100 senior teams so they have 3 divisions. The state director correctly points out that the perfect number of teams for a division is 56 - meaning 8 teams for 7 sectional tournaments. North Dakota is adding a 5th level. It already has 4 divisions for 85 teams. They think right sizing competition makes for a better baseball experience. Nebraska has 4 main divisions with a 5th coming. They divide their teams into equal sized divisions rather than set enrollment limits. 
  • Not Minnesota Legion baseball. Minnesota stands alone virtually refusing anything beyond the half-step Tier 1 A compromise launched in spring 2024.


 Until 2024, Minnesota boasted two huge divisions called D1 and D2. 

  • Big schools for the Division 1 run from school enrollment of 401 to 3,600. Before last year about 130 teams were D1, including Legion 2 teams ( a "B" team or a JV team of a big program). What real chance did a team from a school of 600 have in playoffs against the big teams with 1,500 and 2,000  and even 3,000 students? Who puts JV teams up against Varsity teams for playoffs? Oh they might win a game but not the tournament. 
  • Defending the mismatches, a Board member reportedly said - "When I was playing the game (in a small community) we would just strap up our boots and go to battle" against the big team. Romantic memories indeed.  Sir - did your season end or did the big team go homn?
  • In baseball terms we coaches would refer to these small program Legion teams that were used to fill substate playoff spots as "canon fodder". 
  • But why the obvious mismatches?  Was this gfood from a field level - for players and coaches? Or was it good from an administrative level where the Board overseers used their own perspective? The main culprit has been the D1 playoff design, of course. D1 has 16 teams. So they created 15 substates plus a host team to equal the required 16 teams. 15 times 8 equals 120. Perfect! Keep the Division huge while sprinling larger programs in with the small at the substate site. The big enrollment teams needed the St. Anthony or Delano teams to fill out their substate slots. Both of these teams have good players to be sure. But they would have little hope of succeeding with such an program size spread. Substates usually had a few big programs mixed in with the "filler teams".  Good practoce or not a good practice? What's your view?
  • Another reason for holding so many substates is to limit required travel. Well, one can make that argument. Why isn't travel distance an issue in Nebraska or Wisconsin or with the high school program?  Isn't travel a part of every regular season league game or weekend tournament? Does that argument merit condemning many Outstate players and many Outstate teams to mismatched playoff status?
  • In 2024 the Tier 1A was developed as a compromise "half a division" to house about 35 teams.  There had been a proposal to split D1 into two levels presented in fall 2022.  It never got traction.  A compromise came in spring 2024, too late to secure a weekend tournament field slot. Yet Tier 1 A went forward. T1A would absorb some of the mismatched metro teams. We will discuss T1A in a bit. It was very controversial to some while just plain obvious to others. Was it successful? Absolutely. Smaller teams competed against similar teams with a final state tournament that was rockingly successful. Players coaches and parents loved it. Check out the state tournament bracket and look at the teams. LINK   Outstate teams were excluded. 
  • The D1 playoffs dropped to 12 sites which needed 96 teams to fill each site with 8 squads. In reality, you can use 8 substates and 64 teams to fill the D1 - 16 team tourney. Just take the top two. You don't need the smaller programs as substate fillers. 
  • With 12 substates, the D1 competitive mismtaches were assigned just to outstate programs. They apparently do not deserve equivalent competitive opportunities for playoff success. That is reserved for some metro teams.
  • Will we ever see a full blown Second Division, a statewide Tier 1A? There is much resistance on the Baseball Board from what we have heard. According to one state Legion official, there doesn't seem much demand from outstate cpaches because he didn't get many calls from irate coaches complaining to him.  Perhaps that's one metric. 
  • What is so difficult? And what could be more obvious? From high schools to other Legion progarms all around us, Minnesota stands alone. Are we right and they are wrong? Does the Board not have enough personnel or time to plan, set up, and manage multiple divisions?
  • Who gets to discuss or vote on such matters? You got it. The Board of 14 who has sole authority and sole discretion. 
  • Somebody is blocking right sizing divisions. Who and why?

The Tier 1A Compromise - The Glass Is Half Full

Mismatched playoffs have long been a fundamental feature in  Minnesota Legion baseball. Everyone in the Senior levels was lumped into two divsions - D1 and D2. Attend any Minnesota Legion substate and you would quickly see  competitive mismatches. Many teams appeared to have no chance to get to the state tournament. At the same time, virtually every other baseball program in Minnesota and neighboring states have worked to add divisions to create more opportunities and better competitive balance. Until recently, it seemed discussion of expanding the number of divisions was almost heresy.


In 2022, two Baseball Board members did a phone survey of every coach of a team with a school enrollment below 1,100, a mark that seemed to divide the huge Division 1 into two equivalent divisions. You need a state tournament host and 56 teams to populate 7 substate playoff tourneys. Each coach was asked, if given the choice, where would that team like to play? Would you like to play up to the Big Team Level or play in a new division that would offer more balanced competition. 


  • Of the teams surveyed, several preferred to play in the upper division. Great. 
  • Over 60 teams preferred to play in the new division, more than enough to populate playoffs.
  • The D1 guys could run 8 substates and still populate their 16-team state tourney. No problem.
  • Three programs jumped at the chance to host a state tournament. 
  • In three instances, coaches wanted to play in the new division while their District Director said no.  Same town with competely different view points. 


A proposal was made to the Board, presented by a Director at the 2022 fall meeting. The proposal was voted down.  Someone still pushed the idea. In 2023, the Board decided to develop their own survey. They wanted the survery to include all Division 1 teams no matter the program size.  A survey committee was formed to develop  survey questions. Interestingly, the survey committee was populated with three who voted against and one who voted for the divisional proposal. After a clouple of meetings, no survey questions were developed and the new board directed survey never materialized. It was said that the proposal died in committee. 


However, all was not lost as the State Director purportedly went to work on a compromise. A "Tier 1 A" already existed. One could simply move some smaller metro and "2" teams over to create half a division.  The compromise passed at the 2024 spring board meeting.  Unfortunately, the decision was so late that the innaugural state tournament would have to be held. Several volunteers scrambled to create their own T1A management structure 'on the fly". No implementatin plan had been developed at the board level. other than to pick a tournament site and task a person to facilitate the tournament. The project proved sucessful as did the first Tier 1A state tournament.


The cup is indeed half full. What's the future hold? Tier 1A was renewed for 2025. Outstate teams were again excluded.

What's Up With 130 Teams in Senior D2?

They say the Minnesota D2 Senior Division is the largest in the entire American Legion Baseball universe.  Some 130 teams. One division. One state tournament.  Far more teams than can be placed into a 7 site substate playoff system.  Is this a 'best practices' for players and teams? Who oversees the division and makes the decisions? Who can discuss or vote on the topic? Many have raised questions andoffered their views on this topic. 


  • Why do teams from tiny towns have to play against much bigger foes in Minnesota while neighboring states (and the state high school) give them a more competitively balance division of their own?
  • Why do all the Senior D1 teams, the Tier 1A teams, all of the Junior D1 and Junior D2 teams get to play directly in Substate Playoffs but less than half of the Senior D2 teams ever see a substate playoff field?
  • Senior D2 places 56 teams into Substate tournaments. That is just a 43% playoff participation rate. Every other level is 100%. What's up with that?
  • Senior D2 teams can have their Legion season cut short by two or three weeks by the "play in" rounds. No other levels cut off the Legion baseball season like that. For some teams, the Legion season might be as short as four or five weeks - far less than any other Legion team. Is that fair to the players? Doesn't every player want to play as much as possible? 
  • 43% of D2 teams make Substate. 6% make the state tournament. 1.5% of D2 players make the state finals. 
  • It looks pretty darn discriminatory. Do any of the early exit teams get a refund on their fees?
  • There are certain board people that have the say-so on Senior D2 or maybe all of D2 for that matter. What is their rationale? Why is this approach to D2 such a good deal for the players and teams?
  • There are easily enough teams in D2 to split into two evenly sized groups.
  • One would simply create a plan. Lay out your playoffs. Get some leaders to locate substate sites and state tournament sites. Commujnicate to the programs and coaches. And then implement the plan. Certainly do not follow the Tier 1A expansion decision making model. Please don't decide in the spring to introduce the new division and then hope people come forward to crash land the project successfully. Just set up a task group and develop a proper game plan. Right?
  • Adding the division would immediately allow every player and every team to directly participate in substate playoffs. Doesn't everyone benefit?
  • Why are the people that represent D2 areas seemingly so deadset against it? Maybe current Board members do not have the time to set up a new division? Maybe some extra manpower would be needed. But maybe new people would not be welcome with the apparently close knit Board?
  • How about also changing the state tournament to a double eliminaton and follow the established American Legion format? D2 state tournament hosts make tons of ,money off state tournaments. Why would adding a few total games be a burden to the host? 
  • What reasons justify the current divisional approach that seems to be disadvantaging a huge number of teams and players? Who calls the shots? Who has any input? What prevents a development plan being created?
  • It looks like an easy change. Why not?
     

Why Is Development So Scary for Legion People?

As has been said, those of us that have toiled on behalf of Legion Baseball appreciate the commnuity focus of Legion ball. Minnesota Legion baseball mirrors the high school team approach: One school zone - one team.  There has been virtually no variance with the temporary exceptions made for the Duluth and Bloomington school districts. 


The only Legion Baseball program to ever offer a Legion player the chance to meet and play with kids from other communities was Legion All Stars, a program that was ended by action of the Baseball Board and its officers.  


As it stands now, American Legion baseball stands as a one school - one Legion team program. A  Legion player can only play with their community teammates. Take it or leave it. One must join other programs to do anything else.


Today's Players Seek Out Advanced Competition Programs.

It is a common belief that better players, playing with better players, and playing against better players will get better.  Players seek training and instruction. The seek and find other programs and teams that can offer a more competitive baseball experience. What is the surprise? Most high schools offer advanced educational programs for college bound students. Those are called 'Advance Placement' courses. Should anyone be surprised that players interested in the next level seek out enhanced baseball programs? To some, the Legion program satisfies the competitive level interest. 


Many Players are Choosing to Supplement their Legion Baseball Experience

Others Have Chosen Alternatives

Amateur baseball clubs and private baseball clubs offer greater competition to motivated players. 

  • Most Legion programs have chosen to accept club kids on their Legion rosters as "shared" part-time players.  This is quite common with outstate teams, and less common with metro teams. We estimated that over 70% of All Star players also had club affiliations.
  • Private baseball clubs and programs have been around since 2005. They first attracted the elite baseball player - those aiming for major college placement. Like Wisconsin, clubs have attracted a much broader talent spectrum. Clubs have diversified their products,  programs, and price points that have drawn an ever larger share of the player pool. It is estimated that Legion baseball attracts less than 30% of the better talent in the metro area, even less in the top tier of ranked talent.
  • The drain of talent away from Legion baseball has not gone unnoticed. The quality of play has declined such that the competitive experience of Legion baseball has eroded. 
  • Clubs have drawn from the sophomore and junior classes. Most clubs have chosen to exclude graduated seniors leaving Legion baseball as a welcoming place. 


Can Legion Compete in Today's More Diverse Baseball Market?

  • Certainly the Minnesota Legion single school/single team model suits many programs and many players.  
  • Masny Legion programs do just fine with the full time players mixed with "club shared" players. 
  • Programs that see significant erosion of talent are often able to replace those players with younger players or less talented players. You know, where the summer varsity becomes the summer JV team. 
  • It has been noticed that the more the competitive level drops, the greater the appeal of non Legion programs. 
  • The big question - With a program as large as Minnesota (5,500 players, 1,200 coaches, and 11,000 parents) does a "one size fits all' approach the best we can do with the Legion baseball? Is the One Size Fits All  the most we can do?


Legion Baseball Can Do and Legion Baseball Can Be - What It Chooses to Be

  • Keep your thinking inside the old box and keep your options between the old lines.  If you think that is the best or only approach then read no more. 
  • Start here: We have Players. We have Coaches. We have supportive parents. They like the Legion brand. 
  • When an innovation was offered - people flocked to it way beyond capacity and expectation.  Legion cioaches, college coaches, parents and players all began to pile in during 2024. We built a model and kept refining it.  
  • We started with 3 teams, 40 players, 3 games, and the wrong focus. In 2024 160 players were on 11 teams in twio divisions playing 16 games. But that is not the point. Nearly 175 players were nominated beyond our capacity. There is clear Interest in all star or multi-community styled opportunities within Legion baseball. The demand and interest is there. 
  • All Stars shows you that you don't have to to replace the Legion baseball community focus. You can supplement the program. That enhances Legion baseball which, in theory, makes it more attractive that simply the same old same old.
  • Build it they will come. We did build it. They did come. Discussion should have focused on the 175 that didnt get to participate. Instead, All Stars was killed.


Other Experimental Programs Can Diversify and Enhance Legion Baseball

Coaches and players and parents consistently told us that they would like to see in-season opportunities for an all-star like program. No, they didn't seek anything that would undermine their local teams. They wanted something to enhance their Legion competition experience. 


Zones or Zip Code Teams

Together with several coaches, we came up with local Zone Teams that could play in 2 to 3 weekend tournaments during the season  and a "state tournament" at the end of the season. Is this a radical idea? Was this some wild creative idea? Not at all. It is a copy of Legion programs elsewhere, just like Legion All Stars was a copy of the High School All Star program.

  • The National Legion team formation model "Plan B" provides a nice framework. 
  • Other states, notably Nebraska and Michigan, have 'zone teams" that participate in regular playoffs. We didn't want to do that in the "experimental model".
  • Kids would play with their regular team and also play a few weekends on a team formed by local coaches from kids on the nearby teams. 
  • Local coaches pick who would play on the "enhanced teams". Local coaches would manage their rosters. Local coaches would decide is their program wanteds to participate or not.
  • The point here would be to provide a higher level of competition to Legion kids in a Legikon program. They would not, theoretically, have to join an outside club team to find greater competition. You know, like the advanced placement education program within the community high school.


Coaches and program, people told us they wanted to experiment with it for the 2025 season.

  • The Legion Board was told about the concept and they were directly told what programs and what coaches wanted to be called to create an 8-team Beta test program.
  • To be clear, Legion coaches could do this on their own. They could call each other, assemble weekend exhibition teams,  and set up weekend tournaments.  No Board would need to bless their efforts. And no Legion organization could stop their program.
  • Already we have Legion teams, contrary to the rulebook, changing their Legion jersey and switching to a community jersey to play against  club teams and play in  club tournaments. 
  • We have teams combining players for fall ball. We have teams that combine players to send to in-season club tournaments in Omaha and Madison. There are coaches that run summer teams and also run club teams made up of Legion players from several communities. And there is more.
  • We are Legion guys. So we believed and still believe that having an official seal of approval from Legion is better than having a bunch of coaches running around doing a wildcat operation.
  • What is the experiment failed? Nothing ventured then nothing gained. Anything new can fail. All Stars could have failed. The New Coke failed. Beta tests and experiments can and often fail. But this is baseball! And we know that kids and parents want the challenge of better competition. They like making new friends. They appeciate lower costs that a Legion program or event would run in comparison to private club costs. Most of all, we believe in the coaches. If they want something to happen in their communities, they can and will make it happen. Yes, the Legion Board essentially owns Legion baseball. But its the local coaches that make it happen. Zone Teams are a coach-driven concept.
  • Phone calls were made early last fall. Coaches confirmed their interest. Other coaches want to talk about the concept and think about it. A couple of the guys wanted descriptive information sent to others so that the effort would not be accused of favoritism. Nothing was hidden.
  • We did not believe that a formal proposal for a beta test program could be made without having interested or commited programs. If there was no interest, why create a written proposal for the Legion board? 
  • With interest, why would the Board say no? Player fees or a possible sponsor would handle the financial burden. It would cost the Board nothing. Maybe someday they would get a team registration fee and up the team count?
  • Apparently when Board members heard that actual effort was made to assemble a beta test, someone went ballistic. So after killing All Stars, the officers made sure to crush the Zone team beta test. We didn't even bother sending in the just-written proposal. Not one board member or officer bothered to even make a phone call. They were told in person of many of the programs and coaches that would be called (many having already expressed interest). 
  • You may not know that the State Director called our All Star develolpment team his "development team". We asked that All Stars be tucked into a Development Committee of the Board.  No, he didn't see Board members joining such a committee. We were that committee. The Director's Development Committee. Perhaps we should have gotten that instruction in writing, on paper, or an email or a text perhaps. 


Grow, Develop, Succeed - Not Everyone's Cup of Tea

Successful business and successful organizations always change with the times. They introduce new products, new marketing, and new programs. Rather than just survive, they seek to thrive.  Development may threaten individuals. Many want to keep their positions and protect their organizational turf. This is natural and to be expected. New people and new programs are threatening. What new people might say or how they say it, may upset people that manage established structures and policies.


What can be worse is if a new idea or program succeeds. Thesuccess of something might be the greatest threat to the guardians of status quo.


Minnesota American Legion coaches, players and families want American Legion Baseball to succeed and prosper. They know it is challenged just as they know that where to play and who to play with is a choice that becomes more complicated every year. Minnesota can easily innovate. It is not an "if" proposition. It is a "willingness" issue.


These very same people, and expecially the Legion coaches, are perfectly capable to help out to develop and build addtional options and programs for Legion communities and players.


Our Minnesota Thoughts on Development

Impasse and doing nothing may satisfy some. Managing the model of the past should not be confused with Leadership that develops a better future. Anyone stepping forward with ideas and possible programs or experiments had better take heed of what has happened to development under this Minnesota State Legion Board, its officers and its Director. Yes, that is a finger pointing. Live with it.



All Stars - "We" Together Became a "Those Guys"

Minnesota Legion Board Ends Legion Prospect All Stars

Dramatic Action Taken To Kill a Growing Program

The mission of the Minnesota Legion Prospect All Star Series has been to serve two constituents:

     1) The players and families of Legion baseball players.

     2) The Minnesota American Legion Baseball Board.

When one of the constituents withdraws, the formula is broken.


Legion All Stars started 5 years ago. It has been ended by the Board of Directors and its Officers -the State Director and the two Vice Directors. Issues developed in the fall that have been accurately characterized as "interpersonal conflicts". Direct communications wre cut off from the Board and officers. Matters could easily have been handled with a pohone call or two. They could have been handled with a promise to meet later on. We may takle some blame on some issues. The Wall of Silence is all yours Mister Leader. Good rarely comes from such a negative place. 


Cease and Desist - Now

In November 2024, the All Star group was sent a "Cease and Desist" demand letter. A subsequent letter was sent to all Legion post commanders intended to cutoff any Legion post support or funding. Such action was drastic and may be unprecedented. These actions specifically targeted the two founders of All Stars and kills the All Star program.


An All Star Mom's Take - We Fix Issues - So Should You

An All Star Mom serves on an Executive Board of a large community baseball organization. She offered her wisdom. 'Conflicts will arise in any organization. It is the responsibility of leaders to resolve them.  Disagreements often have strong emotions attached. We ask people to slow it down and take a breath.  We bring the parties together face to face. We ask each to check their anger and their ego at the door. People find out they have much more in common than they knew. Positive outcomes are the goal.' That's what some expect from leadership. Its the same approach any of us that have coached used as well.


Third Party Efforts Have Not Made Headway 

Third parties came forward on a mission to bring the parties (the All Star guys and the Board Officers) together hoping to resolve matters in a positive way. After all, its just baseball. Everyone involved has been committed to Legion ball for their entire baseball lives. We were asked "What sort of example do you set for the boys and parents when adults won't resolve differences? Do you want anger and misunderstanding to be your legacy? Umm. Actually not. 


We listened and agreed to meet face to face. To date, the Legion Director and two vice directorsto date have refused to meet face to face. Oh,they can point the finger and place blame. The failure to manage the situation for the benefot of all concerned is 100% on those officers. Sorry. Flexiing your authoritative muscle may be fun and uplifting. It is not leadership.


Did the Legion Baseball Authorities Consider the People  and Parties That Lose Out?

Legion All Stars stood as the only new program offering in Minnesota. It grew quickly became the feature event to conclude the summer Legion baseball season.. It touched communities across the entire state. People were excited about All Stars and offered more ideas to expand playing opportunities within Legion Baseball. 


Here is who is disadvantaged by killing Legion All Stars:

  1. The 160 players that we had uniforms for in 2024. Their 320 parents. The 25 field coaches who gave their time and had so much fun doing it. The 350 fans that came to support their players and celebrate Legion baseball. The growing staff and Legion volunteers that gathered for the event. The total number ran 800 to 1,000 people.  The YouTube game broadcast audience exceeded 4,000 views. Gone.
  2. Outstate players and families will take it on the chin. 70% of the 2024 All Star players hailed from outstate Minnesota.  Nearly 60 communities were represented at each tournament coming from all corners of the state. Players and their families were willing to travel and pay their expenses for three nights and days. Where is an outstate kid going to go and play in front of 30 college coaches or more? College coaches can't cover 60 communities. But Legion All Stars can - or did. Disadvantage to Outstate Legion Players.
  3. There were 175 players and families that we were unable to put in uniforms in 2024. The interest in playing in a Legion baseball program went way beyond our capacity.  Shouldn't we be talking about what can be done to better meet the growing interest and demand rather than killing the program? That question is perhaps as big or bigger than any other issue. That would be another 800-1,000 total people impacted.
  4. The 35 college coaches that came to watch and came to help coach Legion baseball players. Where has Legion baseball developped a program so tailored for college coaches and those players that aspire to play at the next level? Competing programs stress their support for the college bound athlete.  They argue that Legion baseball does not care about your college interest.  What message does Legion Baseball leadership send here?
  5. The 130 players and parents that annually attend a sold out the College Coaches Panel breakfast where they learn about college options and opportunities. The presenting college coaches and attending players and parents loved it. Perhaps a spirit of collaboration versus confrontation would create more such positive opportunities . 
  6. The 125 plus players that attend a Legion All Stars PBR showcase event. Over 60% of these players are not on all-star rosters coming from all over the state to get a Legion discount and do their thing in front of 15 college coaches. Certainly anyone could develop another one. Or let it die.
  7. The new Junior All Star event was a rocking success. Ask any kid. Again, only 1 of every 2 kids nominated could get a uniform. The Junior tournament created a place for younger players to get positive reinforcement from a Legion program. Fifteen college coaches registered to watch the Junior players. Nowhere else does Legion baseball provide such an opportunity for its younger players.
  8. Minnesota Legion coaches lose out. Hundreds have sent in nominations over the short life of All Stars. All Star field coaches gave their time and paid their own expenses. These guys contributed so much to the boys, to All Stars and to American Legion Baseball. What message do you send to Legion coaches by shutting down a Legion innovation?
  9. Collaborators lose out on opportunities to work with Legion baseball. The Metro Baseball League or MBL, the state's largest youth baseball organization, came forward to partner with All Stars hoping to further connect with the State Legion. Legion All Stars attracted our professional baseball teams. They came forward hoping to support Legion baseball and All Stars. Instead they will now see Legion programming retreating to just the basics.
  10. Eight community programs came forward to try and create another pilot program for the summer season in 2025. As a spin off to All Stars, it was described to the Board. When it appearred a beta test had interest, the formal proposal was set to go to the Legion leaders. That initiate has been squashed and is another casualty of this action



From All Star Founders Bruce Barron and Mike Perry

We are passionate Legion Baseball people. One has 40 years in the program, is in the Minnesota Legion Basaeball Hall of Fame, and coached one of only four Minnesota National Championship teams. The other has 35 years with Legion baseball in leadership positions that include serving as the past Legion Baseball State Director.  Both have worked and have delivered on developing Legion teams, leagues and programs to create more opportunities for Legion players and families. We believed that Minnesota Legion Baseball deserved fresh options with All Stars being the first try. 


The actions taken were just not necessary. 


Mike Perry: "As Director, I would have picked up the phone and made sure we all got back on track."

Bruce Barron: "I just shake my head at thgis experience. And leave it at that".


If you wish to contact the officers of the State Legion Board - the Director and the two Vice Directors are found with this link  LEGION BOARD

Who's Dream Is It Anyway?

Is Minnesota Legion Baseball the Dream of "The Board", or the Players?

 According to the American Legion, the purpose of American Legion Baseball is to give players:

 "an opportunity to develop their skills, personal fitness, leadership qualities, and to have more fun. The program is also a promoter of equality, making teammates out of young athletes regardless of their income levels or social standings. American Legion Baseball has been, and continues to be, a stepping stone to manhood for millions of young men who have gone on to serve their country or community, raise families or play the sport at the highest level. "


They call it the Field of Dreams. Its a place. Its a movie. "Baseball is Life". Its watching "Sandlot" over and over. Watching "A League of Their Own", "The Natural", "Money Ball" and "Major League". Playing baseball and taking it to the next level is what kids dream about. Aspiring American Legion baseball players want to take it to college. To that end, players join training programs, play fall baaseball, join clubs with kids from other communities, split their summer season with club teams and more. And they came to Minnesota Legion Prospects All Star Series.


Until we created the Legion Prospect All Star Series, a college coach had to drive all over the state to watch a Legion game. Few did so. A college coach would have to watch a state tournament. Few do so. 


A number of college coaches have been in contact with us since learning that the Baseball Director and Board killed the all star program.  They learned that the organizers have been thrown out of Lewgoin baseball. There is really no other way to accurately describe it.  A few college coach comments:

  • 'There is no better Minnesota showcase tournament for college coaches than the Legion All Stars series.'
  • 'We don't go to Legion games . We go to All Stars.'
  • 'All they did was stick another dagger in Legion baseball. '
  • 'We have found players every year that we never would have seen or known about.'
  • 'This is unfortunate. It says alot of how that program is run.


College coaches helped us design and launch the Legion All Star program at its inception. We developed a tournament platform for Legion players, Legion coaches and families. We wanted to support  the Dream of College baseball for Legion players. Its their dream- the boys! We opened the doors and we ended up with a flood.

  • We placed 130 kids on 11 teams in two divisions - senior and junior.
  • But there were 150 more than we could not accommodate. Why won't the Board talk about them? Why not work to expand opportunity? Should we be afraid of interest and growth of an idea or program? Should anyone feel threatened by apparent success?
  • Minnesota Legion coaches, players and families have clearly embraced the All Star program. The ever improving level of the All Star weekend stood out as a real positive for Legion Baseball and the Minnesota American Legion. For most anyway. Clearly not for all.
  • So why was the clear success met with resistance and now eliminatin from the Board of 13 Plus 1? 


College coaches supported Legion baseball player "Dreams". They inspired our efforts and embraced Legion All Stars at both the Senior and the Junior levels.

  • Legion Prospect All Stars attracted over 35 college coaches to the senior level event. They come to see Minnesota Legion players. You won't get that sort of turnout anywhere else.
  • Legion has no program that provides and college visibility to the Junior player level. 15 college coaches registered their attendance at Junior All Stars
  • There is a waiting list of college coaches that want to get on the field and coach Legion kids in the All Star tournament. Where else in the world of Minnesiota Legion baseball do 12 college coaches get on gthe field to manage and coach a Legion team? No where. They donate their time and pay their own expenses and are proud to "give back" to Legion. 
  • Was the college coach community ever given a thought in this controversy? If players were considered, the college coaches weren't either. 
  • The new bridge between Legion baseball, its playeres, and the college coach community is now gone.

Minnesota Legion Leaders: What's Your Dream?

The  promise and the dream of baseball draws so many kids to the game. It inspires players to develop and grow, to play forever and play at the highest level possible. That dream of baseball draws many to Legion baseball. Kids and parents and coaches do not have votes here in Minnesota, thus no voice. Over 15,000 depend on the vision and the dreams of you Board members. 


Minnesota Legion Board Members:  What are YOUR dreams? What dreams do you have for kids that want to go to college or want to develop as players?  Here is the link to board members contact information - Leaders & Dreams. 


Is the Junior Legion Program In open Revolt?

They Overrode a State Board Policy - What Comes Next?

At firstst, Scott stood alone. But the defiance appeared to spread. No, not like a California wildfire. But it spread.  The issue landed on the lap of none other than MN Junior Legion D1 Chairman Jack Strong.  Go look. He is listed on the lomington state website. That's where the people that call the shots in Legion baseball are posted. Strong faced a difficult choice. There was no host willing to meet the Board demands. He seemed stuck. Maybe cut tournament costs by reducing the number of games played? Maybe use just one umpire? Or maybe look at hotel costs. Heck. No other state requires site hosts to pay hotels and travel costs. Just Minnesota. Would he break ranks and side with the lone Binsurgent or would he stand in line with his Board superiors?  Chairman Strong had to choose a side.  Would it be democracy or autocracy? 


The State Director's chief of staff is a member of Bloomington Post 550 that sponsors Mark Scott and his baseball program. The COS equated hotel costs with buying baseballs or paying umpires in an effort to convince Mr. Scott to fall in line.  But like the guy who stood in front of a tank in a Bejing square, Mark Scott stood firm in open and direct defiance of the Legion Board and its leaders.


At first, Scott stood alone. But the defiance appeared to spread. No, not like a California wildfire. But it spread.  The issue landed on the lap of none other than MN Junior Legion D1 Chairman Jack Strong.  Go look. He is listed on the lomington state website. That's where the people that call the shots in Legion baseball are posted. Strong faced a difficult choice. There was no host willing to meet the Board demands. He seemed stuck. Maybe cut tournament costs by reducing the number of games played? Maybe use just one umpire? Or maybe look at hotel costs. Heck. Be aware that other state requires site hosts to pay hotels and travel costs. Just Minnesota. Would he break ranks and side with the lone Bloomington insurgent or would he stand in line with his Board superiors?  Chairman Strong had to choose a side.  Would it be democracy or autocracy? 


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#3 Proof: Ain't No Place for MN Legion Coaches

MN Board: Unwilling to Discuss, Won't See, Refuses to Listen

So you Want to Know the Role of Minnesota Coaches and Team Representatives in Legion baseball? 

Let's check in with State Director Randy Schaub.

Take a read of  State Director Randy Schaub's "Winter Update 2025" sent out February 3rd, just a day after Chairman Jack Strong's Junior D1 Meeting. Perhaps the timing may just be concidental.  One may find irony in what the Director claims and what has transpired since. We will write a response to the "Director Randy's Winter Update" at a later date.


Do Actions speak louder than Words? 

Let's look at the only role for Minnesota coaches that was acknowledged  in the "Winter Update".


According to Director Randy - coaches serve are very important.

 "I want to emphasize the critical role that managers and coaches play in the success of Minnesota American Legion Baseball. Your dedication and efforts are the backbone of our program, and I encourage you to complete your team’s registration as soon as possible."


Get your paperwork in  guys! Coach equals admin support. That was it. The onlty coach role cited.


The Director further stated:

 "We value your input and encourage you to share your thoughts and opinions. However, please understand that while your perspectives will be given due consideration, this does not mean every request will be granted." The Director went on to mangae unrealistic expectations stating that he was only one vote on a Board,  perhaps giving a nod to democracy. But that description extends only to the 14 board members.


That's it!  Thise two statements appear to be the only comments directed at Minnesota coaches. 

  • You coaches are critical. In an administrative sort of way. Get your paperwork in because we on the Board love our Minnesota team count. It appears the credit for any program success beyond getting paperwork in goes to the Minnesota Board and its officers.  Wow. We will take that boastful position up in another article.
  • Give your ideas. Communicate with me. I am open for coaches. Your thoughts are important. Give me your ideas. Come to me. Let's communicate. Contact me. Something might happen and....it might not happen. Hey call me - BUT don't expect too much.


Your Handling of the Junior Coaches Is Shameful

The Junior Coaches, the entire Divsion and its Chairman, took matters seriously. They acted with good intent and a solid democratic process. TRhey deserved better than your Board's  appraent complete dismissal in favor of your own imposed solutions. The Board Knows Better! Sure. Uh Huh.


Director Schaub - you run a Board that has the growing reputation as the most closed, most secretive, and most resistant regimehat any long time observer of Legion baseball can remember. The current  Board of Insiders have demonstrated an extreme aversion to ideas, viewpoints, and efforts to better Legion baseball.

  • 60 Coaches of the Junior D1 Divsion spoke as one. You blew them off.  Keep our 8-Team Double Elim. It would seems simple enough to continue with what already exists. NO. You, the Board of Insiders, Rejected the current an entire division of coaches and program representatives. Open to ideas and concerns. Absolutely NOT. 
  • 60 Coaches voted to pay their own expenses thereby eliminating excessive burdens on tounrament hosts. You blew them off. They voted to make hosting more accessible and more attractove to more communities. They voted to solve a rpoblem you and your Board refused to resolve. OPen to ideas? Open to opinions. Absolutely NOT.
  • Why should any individual bring an matter of substance to you? Your Board just blew off 60 coaches and it blew off the Junior D1 Chairman.
  • Your Board heard a recommendation to create a Legion Coaches Association to bring in talent and ideas and energy. You refused to even discuess the idea. Instead you threw the authors right out of Legion baseball.
  • You had a popular and fast growing All-Star program that was attracted more interest than it could serve. More options were needed. Many new people from across the entire state jopined the All Star effort. So frightened were you of new people or outsiders coming around your Secret Board you killed what the National Director called - 'one of the best examples of Legion development in the country". You killed it an tossed ou the founders. That story is about to be told by the way.
  • You had the recommendation to set up a Development Committee within your board to include outsiders. Open to ideas? You threw the authors out of Legion baseball!
  • Sorry. This state director 's request for input and thoughts lacks any serious credibility.


The Proof Is in The Pudding - The Record Is Clear and Consistent

Every other state has an open democracy with coaches voting on pertinent issues and electing representatives. Meetings are open and inclusive. In Minnesota - the coaches must shut up and send in your paperwork. The Board Baseball Czars will determine what they want. The rest of the world must accept their pronoucements. 


The experience of 60 Junior Legion coaches have proven it, once again.

Information or opinion presented was derived from sources deemed reliable. Copyright © 2024 Minnesota All Star Prospects - All Rights Reserved.


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